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ireid's picture
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Does one BOLD and underline?

I remember reading somewhere that once you bold something then underlining is redundant. . . sigh. . . client request. . . AGAIN!

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

mbennett2's picture
442 pencils

I REFUSE to underline. Seriously. I have had more than one semi-conflict with a client because I won't do it.

If I can't emphasize your text without falling back onto a Microsoft Word crutch, then I need to find another job. I certainly wouldn't agree with both bold and underlined, unless you get to make the text hot pink also. Then it would really "POP".

3dogmama's picture
1633 pencils

LOL! But you may also need to hit that hot pink text with some 90% magenta drop shadows and embossing to really "JAZZ IT UP".

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

Oh gawd. My "older" supervisors love to JAZZ IT UP.

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gwells's picture
1384 pencils

you don't prefer "JAZZ IT UP!" to "JUST MAKE IT PRETTY"??

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

Here's my all time favorite:

"I don't know what I want, but I'll know when I see it." Grrr.

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gwells's picture
1384 pencils

just like porn!!!

ireid's picture
1298 pencils

I know it as Pron! LOL!

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
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gwells's picture
1384 pencils

that's pr0n. gotta use the zero!

3dogmama's picture
1633 pencils

You're both wrong.
n0rp

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

onegirlcreative's picture
1069 pencils

Not only that, when you underline it using the underline function, it screws up the text—especially when there's a descender from a lowercase "g," for example. The line will strike right through it. Ugh!

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natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

I said this too, silly. :)

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onegirlcreative's picture
1069 pencils

I have a BAD habit of responding before I'm finished reading everybody's post. So sorry. You can be the stud of the hour, however! =P

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natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

Ha ha. Nah, the studliness is shared between us both. Great minds...

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ireid's picture
1298 pencils

They want it bold, italic and underlined!

'Garbage in, Garbage out"

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

3dogmama's picture
1633 pencils

In SMALLCAPS or UPPER?

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

ireid's picture
1298 pencils

small caps thank god!

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

3dogmama's picture
1633 pencils

You should post the result of this "highlighted" text as a tutorial, but of course using made up copy.
Cheers.
3 dog.

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

Search for "Too Much Emphasis" on this page:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/08/11/top-ten-web-typography-sins/

Basically, use only one emphasis (italic, bold, underline) at a time. More is overkill.

The underlining ruins the descenders on the fonts as well. Not that they care since they want to bastardize their text with POPITUDE (and ignore you, their designer, whom they are PAYING FOR SERVICES). Dumb.
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ireid's picture
1298 pencils

But do you have one for print? :)

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

It's ESPECIALLY true for print.

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Ivan's picture

Correct. You should only use one of them at a time.

gwells's picture
1384 pencils

and don't forget that *color* is included as another form of emphasis.

we just acquired another architecture firm and it seems like one of their fave things to do is to italicize huge blocks of text. not because it's different from anything, it's the only text on the page. they just like the look when it's italicized. and gray.

you know, i know that people get set in their ways, but it does get annoying when people argue that the designer doesn't know what he/she is talking about when they say, "don't underline, that's a typewriter convention." or "you don't need double spaces after a period in proportionally spaced type." people will argue til they're blue in the face about things like that. even after i ask them how many semesters of typography they had in their accounting degree program, they still think that what their high school keyboarding teacher told them is the be all and end all to what's right.

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

+1. Funny especially considering I learned to type on a manual typewriter in the early 80's. :) Was hard at first to stop typing two spaces.

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gwells's picture
1384 pencils

yup, me too. except for the 80s part...

*sigh*

GO 70s!!!!

one other thing i tell people is that even the federal government manages to get it right. the GPO style guide specifies single spaces (i know, i had the page with that info copied, blown up, and on the wall when i was a govt contractor). do people *really* want to be less competent than the federal government?

natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

"do people *really* want to be less competent than the federal government?"

That would be lowering the bar, eh? :)

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stephanie's picture
522 pencils

I hardly even use underlining in links online. It just has a certain "tackiness" to me. I usually just change the font colour. Maybe I'm a little picky. /shrug

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natobasso's picture
3991 pencils

+1. I usually do a background-color in the CSS so it makes a highlighted box around the text. A little more garish, but anything to not have to use an underline. :)

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mara06's picture
2019 pencils

Underlining is so Smith-Corona, as a now-long-outdated substitute for italics (for book titles and other things that a publisher would set in italic type).

I wouldn't use bold-faced type for emphasis in blocks of text. Use italics instead, but sparingly. Your writing style should do your shouting for you.

There are certain times when you need to break these rules. As most of you probably know, all kinds of typesetting rules are purposely broken in those multi-page fund-raising letters. The idea is they want recipients of the letters to think they were done in gushing, heartfelt earnest by slobs just like themselves, not sophisticated million-buck-a-year ad execs. For the same reason, they often also use fonts that look like dirty typewriter keys. Take from that insight what you will about when/whether to use any kind of emphasis in your text.

Mara

3dogmama's picture
1633 pencils

Forgot to ask: What font are you committing all of these atrocities to? And please don't say it's Comic Sans or some sort of bubble font!

But if it is....POST IT!

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

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